You Might Want To Think About Stopping Your Mortgage Payments and Reducing Your Income

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house_for_sale.jpgAs we mentioned yesterday, a bit of a fight has broken out over whether it is irresponsible for journalists and others to advise homeowners about the options that the government's bailout programs are opening up to them. But the fact is for a lot of homeowners it makes perfect sense to stop payments on mortgages...and it may even pay to stop any overtime work or have one of the earners in your household quit.

  • You must be at least 90 days delinquent and live in the home as your primary residence.
  • You must owe at least 90 percent of the home's value.
  • Your loan has to be guaranteed by Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac

Pender quotes Peter Schiff, who thinks a lot of people are going to make sure they qualify by stopping payments and reducing income.

Peter Schiff, president of Euro Pacific Capital, predicts that many homeowners who have little or no equity will stop paying their mortgage and then reduce their income to get the biggest payment cut possible. They could stop working overtime or, if two spouses work, one could quit. After the modification, they could try to boost their income again.

"This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity," Schiff says. "People are going to feel like complete morons if they don't participate. The people getting punished are the ones who never made an irresponsible decision to buy a house they couldn't afford."

The government is offering loan servicers $800 for every homeowner they get into the plan.

Will stopping payments hurt your credit rating? Of course it will. But so will missing auto-loan, student loan and credit card payments. What's more, a foreclosure will hurt your rating even more. A personal bankruptcy will ruin it. The savings you get from restructuring your loan may more than make up for the additional costs of borrowing later you'll incur by missing a few payments. In time, your score will bounce back.

Is this immoral? Of course it's not. We live in Bailout America, with lenders getting billions in taxpayer dollars. You are gaming the system here; you are playing by the rules. The rules may reward irresponsible behavior but if moral hazard doesn't stop Citigroup from getting $25 billion, why should it stop you from restructuring your loan.

Not everyone agrees. As Joe pointed out here the other day, some paternalistic journalists think Pender shouldn't even be sharing this information with the public. But that's just silly. With the government paying mortgage companies to restructre the loans, they're going to be cold calling homeowners and selling them on this anyway.

Felix Salmon gets it right:

"Remember that it's not a crime to default on your mortgage. The banks are perfectly happy scraping around in the fine print of credit-card agreements to screw their customers; the customers should be perfectly happy similarly to optimize their own situation with respect to the banks. It's an unfortunate situation all round, but it's not something you can blame the financial press for."

20 Comments

Joe said:
While we're at it, lets get this rolling on credit cards too!
one said:
It makes even better sense if you expect to remain in your home for some time. A foreclosure will only stay on your credit report for 7 years. If you are not buying another house, or making any other large investments, why not get a couple hundred grand chopped off your principal. In seven years, you will be just like any other sucker who pays their mortgage.
King Ding-a-Ling said:
Creating incentives for people to not work and default on their loans? This is going to be an unmitigated disaster for the economy as a whole. This whole "perfect storm" thing keeps making more and more sense in light of some of these policy decisions. All we need now is for the Democrats to get going on the "green economy" regulations, fines, and taxes. Then we can have our green depression.
Dan Daoust said:
Let's be clear about something: if you're paying more than 38% of your pre-tax income toward your mortgage, you don't have 10% equity, and you're trying to decide which bill to pay and which to skip, you're in a world of financial hurt. No one who qualifies for this is going to be doing cartwheels. Perhaps that's a relatively obvious point, but I think it's easy to conjure a mental image of perfectly well-off homeowners gaming the system and playing the rest of us for suckers. I don't think it's an accurate depiction of what people who might consider this approach are really going through.
one said:
@ Dan D
I may not be using 38% of my pre-tax income to pay my mortgage today, but tomorrow I can make it look that way. Hence the whole work less, do less.
John Wilson said:
Just Do It

that's what all the corporate whores do
Anthony J. Alfidi (URL) said:
Let's not go the route of arguing "if the big boys at Citigroup do it then it's okay for the rest of us to play." Recovering from Great Depression 2.0 will depend on how well millions of people behave. We may find that social peace is threatened when everybody starts lowering standards.

Voluntarily reducing one's income takes productive effort out of the economy. Recovery will be much harder for us all.
Christophe said:
In soviet america, loans pay you.
Soren Macbeth (URL) said:
Bravo Carney. Well Said.
pitt said:
This is such a stupid theoretical post. It reminds me of law school with professors and students spouting off about hypothetical situations that may happen but aren't going to happen in any significant numbers to have any kind of real impact.

People aren't going to quit their jobs and stop paying their mortgages if they can currently afford it. A very small minority might try to game the system if they really are working three jobs and they really don't care about going through the hassle of renegotiating the mortgage. But they will have repercussions for their actions (credit score), and this program DOES have safeguards, which everyone seems to forget.

How many people are really going to look to get RID of a job in this economy? Moreoever, how many people in any economy are ever looking to REDUCE their income. Are you serious with this post?

This is just another free market zeolot railing against the "evils" of socialism while ignoring the realities of the situation. What makes it worse is that the author has the economic acumen to know better. Let's try to be objective here. Maybe this plan isn't the best, but it's all we've got. And it's a hell of a lot better than doing nothing.

Billy Smithwick said:
I don't have to quit my job, poitt. but my wife can quit hers and that would put us under the limit. She's an a business where she'll always be in demand (oh stop that - not that) and she wouldn't mind taking a year off.

All these government plans end up as a jackpot for scammers. Where were you when New Orleans was ripping off FEMA for Katrina money? Seen much improvement there in the last four years? The first ones to rape the taxpayer in this plan will be the realtors, who live at the same level as used car salesmen and lawyers.

This plan is stupid. But that's what you get from government.
WontBfooledTwice said:
Hey, if we get this rolling on credit cards, I'd be golden. I could be $65,000 in the hole with the credit limits I have now... that's one heck of a vacation and lots of good eating... nothing that can get repossessed. HELP Big Brother... I'm in NEED!
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SweetFinancialAlchemy said:
Make sure you get a cause written into the new mortgage stating "you own the property 100% when the mortgage is repaid". Otherwise, Fannie or Freddie will claim they own a proportion of your discounted home. Example, you bought your home for $600,000, it gets revalued at $450,000 (25% discount). You sell the house in 10 years time for $800,000. Fannie or Freddie claim their 25%, that means you get $600,000 and they get $200,000. You may also be liable for the full amount of the original mortgage when you sell. The banks used financial alchemy during the property boom and it backfired, they can't afford to lose out again.
JCF said:
I hate repeating this quote across various topics but if this does not scare policy makers then voters need to ensure it does

"Democracy is a form of government that cannot long survive, for as soon as the people learn that they have a voice in the fiscal policies of the government, they will move to vote for themselves all the money in the treasury, and bankrupt the nation." ~ Karl Marx

ABS said:
I have 3 kids in college and make just enough money, working 2 jobs, that they don't get any government tuition assistance. I'm working 2 jobs because my wife lost hers and I needed to re-fi out of an adjustable rate mortgage. I've been responsible and not cashed out the equity in my home even though I could have done so when I refinanced. Now I see this ridiculous bailout scheme and I just want to scream. If I had just cashed in my equity a year ago, I'd be in line to qualify for this plan. As much as I'd like to think I'm above doing so, I'm pretty sure I'd quit my second job, have my mortgage reduced, and allow my kids to qualify for some tuition assistance. I'm certain there are a LOT of people who will take advantage of this. Especially since the government has put an $800 bounty on finding them and convincing them to do so. Absolutely moronic.
Christine (URL) said:
These bailout plans make me so angry. My husband and I paid 40% of our income towards the mortgage in order to buy a home in San Francisco. We budgeted firmly elsewhere to make that 40% allocation possible, and acknowledged that it was our responsibility and risk to make work as adults and homeowners. We've since added a third job into our mix to get our mortgage down to 25% of our income. And the government encourages us to stop working the third job and take money from taxpayers instead? Utterly ridiculous.

If someone buys more home than they can afford, or if financial circumstances change, then they need to be responsible about returning the asset to the bank. It's no different from buying anything else that you can't afford to keep - either sell it or bring it back to the store. If enough people do this, then market prices don't become as overinflated, and more-affordable purchases become available.
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